"Custom Cast" and "Custom Crew" lists problem

I’ll try to explain my problem as best as possible:

I’m from Greece and a great part of my collection is greek movies. As IMDB information is mostly limited or plainly wrong, I prefer to add these movies manually or create custom lists for cast and crew. Since CLZ Movies Web supports greek characters, I write this info with greek characters, by going to “custom cast”, then “add actor” and then “Can’t find the right person? Add your own.” I mean, I actually can do this without problem, right? However, I’ve noticed that some entries are shown kind of differently. An example: I’ve entered manually “Αλέκος Σακελλάριος” as a director, but it is shown all capitals, “ΑΛΕΚΟΣ ΣΑΚΕΛΛΑΡΙΟΣ”. Another example: my entry for actor “Τζαβαλάς Καρούσος” is shown as “Τζαβάλας Καρούσος” (the dot that shows the word stress is on a different letter). Since I add these entries manually I can’t understand how they can be modified all by themseves and what causes this modification. I tried going to “Manage Pick Lists” and edit my entries but, although it shows that my edits are saved, the entry remains unchanged. Is this some kind of glitch or I try to use CLZ Movies Web in ways that are not supported?

I really don’t want to diminish your great work in CLZ Movies Web but as an old user of your Movie Collectorz software, it was pretty amazing to be able to add data the way I wished. From the moment the personal name lists disappeared because the names correspondend to an external database, problems arised. It actually became harder to make sure that the names are correct, like selecting the right Tom Holland between 10 different names (just an example) or double entries in “Maggie Smith” and “Dame Maggie Smith” (again, just an example to express my thought).

I understand that you want to provide the best and easiest experience for your users but making everything automatic isn’t always the best choice. We’re not using your products for work, we’re collecting movies, it’s a hobby, creating our collection with your apps is fun. It’s great that we can press a button and have everything ready, but we should be able to add everything manually if that’s what we wish, without linking our entries, if we want to customise stuff for our own personal use. Trying to add films and names from non-english speaking countries to correspond with IMDB, an english speaking site, isn’t always practical. Again, you’re doing a great work but the extreme automisation actually makes me spend less and less time on CLZ because it’s no fun anymore and at times I can’t do what I could in the past.

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Hm, it seems you found a bug with those names.
It should really just save whatever you type in there.

I’ve tried adding Τζαβαλάς Καρούσος as an actor and that saves correctly for me.
I’ve tried adding Αλέκος Σακελλάριος as an actor and that saves correctly for me.

However, when I add these as for instance a Director, they reproduce that what you mentioned in your post.

Τζαβαλάς Καρούσος becomes Τζαβάλας Καρούσος
Αλέκος Σακελλάριος becomes ΑΛΕΚΟΣ ΣΑΚΕΛΛΑΡΙΟΣ

I’ll report this bug on our bug list for fixing as this is not correct.

Can you confirm that this changing of names is only happening for custom CREW?
Or do you see it in ACTORS as well (when you add a new one that you can’t find online?)

As for Tom Holland, here’s what I get:

This seems correct for me, is it not?

As for Maggie Smith I get

The top one is the most famous one, marked by the blue line on the right.

The one below seems to have the wrong picture. @CLZ_Martin can you check and fix this one please?

If we fix the problem with the names changing, there’s only wrong data left, but you are free to add whatever you want. Even when you search Maggie Smith, you can wait 1 second, and you can still “Add your own” if you want.

What other things would you consider “extreme automisation” ? You can modify so much stuff in the Web version, you can also unlink entries, or just add completely loose entries manually without any data from Core.

Can you explain this to me a bit more though, because I don’t understand, when you edit a movie you can edit just about all fields. What are you missing?

Thanks for your quick and analytical response!

The changing of names is happening on both custom cast and crew but it’s not always the same.

In the case of “Αλέκος Σακελλάριος”, it shows correctly when I add him in custom cast list but it changes to all capitals in custom crew list (as director and writer to be specific). The capital issue happens with other names as well, per example I enter “Μιχάλης Ρέππας” in custom crew list and it changes to “ΜΙΧΑΛΗΣ ΡΕΠΠΑΣ”, but when I add him in custom cast list, it shows correctly. BUT “Τζαβαλάς Καρούσος” keeps on changing to “Τζαβάλας Καρούσος” in the custom CAST list.

As for my other issues that I mentioned, it seems that you’re completely right. By unlinking certain films from Core, everything seems to work just like I wish. I had trouble with double entries on names but that seems to resolve the issue.

So the problem seems to be just the names changing.

(I don’t want you to think I’m an unhappy customer, I use your products for more than ten years and you’re truly doing an amazing work!)

Remus M.

Thanks for explaining. That helps, and I’ve added the information to the bug report on our side.

I didn’t think that :slight_smile: just a bit confused about the wording and not being able to edit stuff while we spent so much development time on making sure you can modify fields, more and more of them :slight_smile:

All good! And thank you for your kind words!