Thanos (Vol. 1) Issue #8

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I believe this should be listed as a comics minor key at minimum and my hope is that it gains the notoriety of major key for what it truly is.

This is the first appearance of Peter Quill in Earth-616, which should be precedence enough alone. See Marvel Fandom, or the complete marvel reading order for Earth-616 for reference.

Here Peter Quill interacts with Thanos and Gladiator in his first appearance in Earth-616. Prior to this the supporting characters from Earth-791 showed very little resemblance to the rest of the known marvel universe at the time.

Additionally, Thanos Vol. 1 is a bridge between two comic eras. Prior to this series and half way through, you have Jim Starlin who had provided readers with three decades of cosmic content to include most major cosmic events. Half way through this series you have the first author being passed the cosmic universe, who later helps develop the Guardians of the Galaxy. A cosmic team that dominated world culture for the last decade throughout the cinematic universe, comics, video games, toys and more. Additionally, as Keith Giffen takes over, he is the first to take on a major cosmic event post Jim Starlin, with Annihilation.

With this cosmic era being known as the era of reinventing past Marvel obscurities, you can pinpoint this issue as the issue that started the shift with the first appearance of Peter Quill in Earth-616. As the creation of the Guardians of the Galaxy was unknown at the time, you can only see the importance of this issue in retrospect. The same is said for most key Guardians of the Galaxy moments. The team formed around Peter Quill/Star-lord, so his first appearance is the moment an era was born.

Thus, why I strongly support this issue becoming a key book.

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Hi there, I appreciate the research behind this. However I don’t think it validates being a key at all. Star Lord being from a different earth isn’t tied to the character and his story (like a Miles Morales). When I think of other characters, Harley Quinn comes up. But Harley is that much up there where it doesn’t matter, all of her early books are populair or sought after. With Star Lord that isn’t the case at all. Even his 1st app in a standard size comic is very cheap (not that value matters but it is a reflection of popularity).

Feel free to put in your own database though :blush:

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Whereas I was hoping this wouldn’t be a popularity contest as the later portion of your argument against it is whole heartedly correct, not withstanding a difficult and costly TPB to attain that spanned this issue. You are correct in the fact that this comic book is currently not valuable. Yet my guess is that it was a lower print run, which has something going for it if it is ever noticed.

My hope was that it would be worth it to bring attention to the comic due to the fact that it was historically important, which it is.

Although I am not a DC fan and thus cant speak to Harley Quinn, I have difficulty with understanding the mention of Miles Morales different universes being important to his story. My misunderstanding might come from the fact that it sounds like the argument is in regard to his first appearance book being of importance from Earth-1610. With this I agree. Just as I do not believe this issue should negate the fact of Marvel Preview 4. However, Miles Morales was already relating to the marvel universe at his inception.

Marvel Preview 4# and later 11# Earth-791 Ragnar, Ariguans, Ruothk’ar, Magi, Mary, Jacob, Sheriff Barnes etc. then later to include, Jason of Sparta, Kip Hölm, Dirac, Prince Gareth, etc. Names that mean nothing to most of the world and only entered Earth-616 retroactively.

Thanos (Vol. 1) issue 8- Thanos and Gladiator. Peter Quill tied to the universe as the world knows him. Peter Quills most frequently visited antagonist.

Ultimate Fallout #4- Reed Richards, Ben Grimm, Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, Spider-man. In this issue, being the key issue he is already tied to marvel cannon even while being in a different universe.

I am not saying it over writes marvel preview #4. However, my argument is that when Disney takes a little known IP and then make something well known to the masses is Disney’s version, which is more impactful to the world not important. Take Mary Poppins for example. Without tying importance to it through Disneys films, the original would most likely have been lost to the ages. If Star-lord wasn’t reintroduced in Earth-616, his original stories would have been lost to the ages as with every other obscure comic of the past. This issue is why the world knows him. That and the fact that Keith Giffen probably reached for Star-lord due to Chris Claremont, John Byrne, and Terry Austin taking over in Marvel Preview #11.

If Disney has anything to say about the future of the Guardians of the Galaxy, the team will most likely be revisited as they made Disney billions in the MCU. They are probably just putting it down for a while and will revisit it when nostalgia sets in and people can separate the original cast. This issue is the first time Peter Quill (later to become Star-lord) enters the marvel comics universe as we all know it. It is the beginning steps of the Guardians of the Galaxy as we all know them. Isn’t that enough for a minor key at the least.

If not I will continue my argument regarding the history of the Guardians of the Galaxy (separate from this forum) until one day the next generation see’s that history was overwritten due to the missed early issue hype. Hype that was overlooked because of what the era was. An era that reinvented obscure characters. That and it will always be a key of mine.

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Out of respect this will be my last post, but just wanted to show. At least google AI believes it is lol.

My Question:

Would the guardians of the galaxy have formed if Keith giffen did not introduce peter quill. because of this shouldn’t thanos vol 1 issue 8 be considered a minor key comic

Google AI response:

Keith Giffen did not introduce Peter Quill, but he was pivotal in revamping him, and yes, Thanos Vol. 1 #8 is considered a key issue. Giffen’s work in the 2000s, especially during the Annihilation event, laid the groundwork for the version of the Guardians that became a pop culture phenomenon.

Giffen’s influence on Peter Quill

While Steve Englehart and Steve Gan created the original Star-Lord in 1976 (Marvel Preview #4), their version was a cosmic adventurer with a completely different personality from the one that appears in the movies. Giffen’s contributions were critical in shaping the modern character:

  • In Thanos Vol. 1 #8 (2004), Giffen reintroduced a more cynical and damaged version of Peter Quill to the Marvel universe, setting him on a new path.

  • Giffen followed up with the Annihilation: Conquest - Star-Lord mini-series (2007), where he created the team that would become the basis for the modern Guardians. This team featured Quill alongside characters like Rocket Raccoon and Groot.

  • This groundwork allowed writers Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning (DnA) to launch the Guardians of the Galaxy series in 2008, featuring the now-famous lineup.

The significance of Thanos Vol. 1 #8

While it’s not Peter Quill’s first-ever appearance, the reintroduction in Thanos #8 is a major milestone for the character’s modern history. This is often described as the first appearance of the modern, Earth-616 version of Star-Lord, and it is a key precursor to the Annihilationstoryline and the formation of the modern Guardians.

For this reason, it is widely regarded as a key comic. Websites like MyComicShop explicitly list the character re-introduction as a key detail for this issue.

Would the Guardians have formed without Giffen?

The modern Guardians of the Galaxy would not exist in their current form without Giffen’s role in the Annihilation event and his re-imagining of the character roster.

  • Giffen’s Annihilation event (2006) was a major cosmic epic that revitalized Marvel’s space-faring heroes, bringing many obscure characters back into the spotlight.

  • In the follow-up, Annihilation: Conquest (2007), Giffen brought together Peter Quill, Rocket Raccoon, and Groot for the first time as a team.

  • This directly led to the 2008 DnA series. Without Giffen’s editorial vision and writing that gathered these “b-level” characters, they likely would have remained obscure. The Guardians team as we know it today, and the subsequent hit movies, can be directly traced back to Giffen’s cosmic work of the mid-2000s.