[Added] Spire Christian Comic Variants Missing

The following variants of Spire Christian Comics are missing from the CLZ database [the titles are in the database, only these variants are missing]. Covers for each are shown. There are likely others missing too but these are the ones relevant to my collection at least!

A quick guide: titles generally went through these iterations: Spire imprint - 35 cent, 39 cent, 49 cent, 59 cent, 69 cent; Barbour imprint (years later) - 69 cent, 79 cent. A few Spire variants have no price.

Archie’s Circus - Barbour 69 cent edition
Archie’s One Way - Spire 39 cent edition
Archie and Big Ethel - Spire 69 cent edition
Archie Gets a Job - Barbour 79 cent edition
Barney Bear Family Tree - Spire no price edition
Barney Bear Wakes Up - Spire 39 cent edition
Born Again - Spire no price edition
God Is - Spire 39 cent edition
Jesus - Spire 49 cent edition
Up From Harlem - Spire 39 cent edition

These have been added. We can’t use covers with watermarks. I managed to locate ones without.

Nice!! Thank you very much @CLZ_Rowdy ! As I added these I noticed two of them had the variant price description added but the actual price is still something else - specifically these two:

Ahh…forgot also to mention the “Jesus” title shows the publisher/imprint as “New Barbour Christian Comics” which was the later imprint. All the rest of these Spire comics show as Publisher “Fleming H. Revell Co.” and Imprint “Spire Christian Comics”. So the other variants added should be updated to reflect that as well. Thank you again for all the updates!!

For the “Jesus” series I have corrected the Publisher to “Fleming H. Revell Co.” and Imprint to “Spire Christian Comics”. Thank you for letting us know.

Thanks @CLZ_Rowdy ! Unfortunately the change didn’t ‘take’ - I just updated from core and it’s still the same.

3 of the other variants you added for me need the same update:

  • Archie and Big Ethel
  • Archie’s One Way
  • Up From Harlem

Thank you again!!

Have you tried manually editing the publisher’s and imprint’s name for the series ‘Jesus’ from within the software you are using?

3 of the other variants you added for me need the same update:

  • Archie and Big Ethel
  • Archie’s One Way
  • Up From Harlem

Sorry but I don’t understand this. What update do you mean exactly?

Sorry @CLZ_Rowdy I should have been specific :). And yes I’m sure I can manually edit the details, however my understanding is that it’s preferable to request that it be fixed in the Core so (a) it will be corrected for everyone, and (b) my change won’t be overwritten if I ever ‘update from core’ on that entry.

To summarize the remaining fix: the Publisher for the following titles should be set to “Fleming H. Revell Co.” and the Imprint to “Spire Christian Comics”. You mentioned you had already done this for “Jesus” but the change didn’t “take”. Also: I discovered one more that needs the change (listed below with the rest).

  • Archie and Big Ethel
  • Archie’s One Way
  • Barney Bear Family Tree
  • Jesus
  • Up From Harlem

For the above I have corrected Publisher to ‘Fleming H. Revell Co.’ and Imprint to ‘Spire Christian Comics’. Thank you for reporting.

Thank you very much @CLZ_Rowdy , however, once again the change didn’t “take”. I just updated from core on all 5 titles and nothing has changed.

@tmadoc

You have the web version as well right? I recommend going to

  • Log in and then
  • click the folder button top left, and group by PUBLISHER.
  • Now click the bad publisher.
  • Checkbox 1 of the comics.
  • Now click the checkbox, at the top for “ALL” on the blue action bar)
  • Click the 3 dots, and click "Update from Core. "

Now set the Publisher and Imprint fields to replace.

That should do the trick.

Then sync on your mobile device.

Thanks @CLZ_AJ ! That’s actually just what I was doing. I set ALL fields to “replace”. Unfortunately for some reason this particular change just isn’t going through. Here’s what I’m seeing after trying to update 3 of the ones that were changed - it shows 0 changes. Same on the other 2 books. I know the update from core works in general - I’ve used it many times to update changes you guys have made. So I’m not sure what’s wrong here. Maybe the change just didn’t go through?

That is strange, I will test this tomorrow, to see if the feature is broken, because the fixed publisher/imprints are visible in Core on our side. Will get back to you on that.

Or perhaps it’s not going to all the variants? I’m only checking the variants that Rowdy added as listed earlier in the thread - maybe those variants were missed as far as this change?

OK thank you AJ!

For the record I tried fully removing one and adding it back, same results.

I’m catching up here. I love the Spire books. Would Barbour Christian Comics be considered an imprint of the overall Fleming H. Revell Co?

“In the 1980s, Barbour & Company, founded by Hugh Revell Barbour, acquired the rights to republish many of the titles in the Spire Christian Comics line under the New Barbour Christian Comics imprint, keeping the comics in print until 1988.”

Hi @Valeyard ! Technically, once Barbour got the rights, both publisher and imprint should probably change, however I’ve been told you can’t switch publishers between one variant and the next in CLZ.

I prefer the original Spire books personally. They are so well done and have great stories! And I still couldn’t believe they allowed the Archie characters into this world! 3 of the most underrated issues were the ‘Adventures With the Brothers’. What are your faves?

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Yeah there was a problem, which we’ll work on fixing. I won’t go technical here, but we’ve found it.

Can you try using update from core again, see if it works?

Thanks @CLZ_AJ , you guys fixed it! Thank you very much!!

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