Amend "Author" to "Author or Editor" option

I have a large collection of non-fiction books, a number of these books are anthologies that have an editor vs an author.

Currently, the “Editor” form is isolated to the “Cedits” page.

As such the Editor listing is omitted from the listing information for the book in the listing view.

This is odd, since most library entries view an editor as equal in data information as an author.

For me searching for editor would help. But my work around is putting (Hrsg.) or (Ed.) behind the name in the Author field. I make it a part of the display name not the sort name. So I can search the Author folder for editors and I see if the person is an editor.

Is the request here, that you would like to see the credit “editor” in the list view (the list with all books showing) as a field in there?

Would you say that as soon as you enter credit: editor, it should not show the author anymore in the list?

I think @ritreffem’s solution would likely be better here to be honest (it would immediately give you all benefits of having it on the same level as author (and if you foldergroup by author, you would also immediately have the editors there - cause it is unlikely we will ever group editors together with authors in one flat list when grouping by author).

I think kimn thought to this:

As you see when no author the author field is empty, which is not good because there is an authorship just it is not an author but an editior. I think the best solution would be if you have no author but you have an editor than display the editor in the author field on list view. So Author and Editor field stay as it is only the list view “Author” field change to “editor” when no author.

Something like this:

Thanks for this workaround suggestion.

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I understand. We do something similar in CLZ Music with the Composer field.

In list view the artist will always show in the artist field.

However: Composer is always shown instead of whatever you have in the Artist field in album details panel.

I’m not sure if it is a good idea to just overwrite the author column with whatever is in editor field. I also don’t think it is a good idea to just show the editor in the author column, but only if no author is filled in - as that creates 2 separate situations which you can’t really identify.

Also I’ve not heard of a similar request in all the years we had Book Collector for Windows, since Book Collector began.

Would you be happy if Editor would always show instead of author in the details view? And leave the list/foldering as is?

Or is this really a case of only use Editor as an author if no author is filled in - but if an author is filled in, then use author as author?

Earlier I used ritreffem solution too but in the end I didn’t like it because with that solution you make authors from editors. And in my view they are not the same. So I delete editors from authors list.

Or is this really a case of only use Editor as an author if no author is filled in - but if an author is filled in, then use author as author?

Maybe with half of ritreffem solution: if no author, display editor name with auto added (ed.) or (editor) in the end.
Example:

So Authors stay authors and editors stay editors, only in list view (maybe other view too) editors name with auto (editor) addition appear if there are not any authors.
Maybe as an optional possibility. Because I am sure there are some who dont want to see editors in the authors column.

What is your opinion about this?

One reason I can think of, why you @CLZ_AJ don’t get the request. People just put editors in the author field for anthologies. Like look at this isbn in core: 3548310966. On the Cover it says Ronald M Hahn (Hrsg.), which means he is the editor. But he is credited as the author in core. Same with this ISBN (missing one editor, but one is credited as author) 9783451080500.

So the data in Core falsely does credit the editors as authors for anthologies quite often, and most users seem to be fine with this, or they like me change it in their personal data but don’t update the core data.

I would like something like @OldShatterhand s solution. Maybe allowing marking data in the ‘“author’“ field as author/editor/pseudonym, like contributor differenciates between different roles. With that we could easily ‘“correct’“ editor names in the author field.

Best regards Marina

Having worked as both a writer and an editor in a variety of settings, I’ve learned that there’s not a lot of overlap in the skill sets needed to be good at either of those jobs. So I always put writers’ names in the Author data field and editors’ names in the Editor field.

My solution (work-around?) for the issue being discussed here was to define a small set of pseudo-authors that I can also enter into a book’s Author field, such as “Anthologies (Multi-author)” and “Museum and exhibit catalogs, etc.”

In addition, I place an underscore character at the beginning of each pseudo-author’s label, so they will all be grouped together when I sort my book catalog by Author.

It works for me. Your mileage may vary.

Hm, I find it strange this is then not coming up at all in all those years. But, I’ll take note of the suggestions made here. I don’t see that this will be changed soon, but there’s definitely some ideas here yeah.