Suggestions to sorting options

Hi together,

I would very much like that it would be possible in future to sort in different ways in self-created collections. Up to now, there has only been one cross-collection function and you have to set the desired sorting selection each time in the individual collections. This is very cumbersome.
In addition, a manual sorting option would be great (there are many apps in which there is something to sort and in which manually sorting is implemented).

Hopefully greetings
Matthias

Hey Matthias,

I would love to know some examples of how you are trying to sort. I still use MuC (desktop), but I am able to sort on a wide variety of fields/columns. Let us know a bit more (including which version you use), and we might be able to make some suggestions. Until then… cheers!

Sorting in itself is not a problem, yes, I can sort by all kinds of options, but I’m concerned with the cross-collection sorting options: for example, if I want to sort by purchase date in my “LPs” collection, but by release date in the “Oldies” collection, I have to reselect these options every time I switch to another collection, because the last option selected is applied to all collections.
I use the newest versions of book and music mobile

That makes complete sense and I understand the issue you are describing. I have experienced the same – it is as though the sort criteria is “sticky” to the app and not to the collection. I am trying to think of an alternative or workaround, but I can’t think of anything other than what you describe – resetting the sort criteria for each collection. Thanks for your clarification and examples – I just wish I had a solution! Hopefully we’ll hear from one of the developers soon. I’m sorry I couldn’t help.

Hence the wish to the developers for future updates :slight_smile:
Thank you for your answers! Have a good week…

Indeed, sorting is done “app wide”. And not “sticky per collection”.

You can save sorting favorites though, so it will take 2 clicks to switch sorting (click the AZ dropdown button, then select your favorite sort setting for that collection, done).

It has been requested before to have certain views/sorting/foldergrouping saved per collection, but I can’t promise this will make it to the app right now. My apologies.

I don’t really understand that: if I could save the sort mode in a collection, that would be great. But it doesn’t remain ‘saved’ when I change the collection with a different sorting function.
So: I’d really like it if you could work this out when you get the chance… Or set up a manual sorting function, that would be the best :slight_smile:

The feature request of having sorting remembered per collection has been noted.

What would that mean exactly?

Select a book or album, hold it down and drag it to the place where you want it (within the same collection, of course)

Hm, I don’t see that ever happening to be honest. Sorting is done based on fields and what is filled into those fields.

You could sort by index and change the index numbers to make a “manual” sorting - but that’s a lot of work.

Dragging and dropping to make it sort the way you want also sounds like a lot of work if you have say 500 or more books right?

Can I ask you for an actual use case where you want to drag/drop books to make them sort (and what you’re basing that sorting on exactly?)

Okay, a simple example:
in my self-created ‘Wishlist’ collection, I want to resort from time to time and move the current favourites to the top or to a specific place. The tried and tested drag and drop in many other apps is definitely the quickest way to do this.
Using the index, for example, I would have to check the indexes of the other books or albums every time and then edit the desired book. In addition, if I sort it by index: if I change for example an index from 35 to 2, the subsequent indexes are not updated automatically, which means I would have to change all subsequent indexes as well - so that’s not really a solution for me…

And again briefly about the sorting function: if you are thinking about designing the sorting function so that it can be set independently in each collection, then please also for the view options (list, cradles, images…)

By the way, one more small wish: maybe you could implement the nice shelf view like in the web version in the view options of the mobile versions?
:slight_smile:

Thanks for that explanation. Can you point me to a couple of those apps that let you do this? It seems such a strange way for me to sort (I mean, for a wish list, perhaps), so I’m wondering how those other apps present that, and if they allow regular sorting on certain fields.

Can you give me a use-case scenario for this?
(if you sort on the Title field while viewing images, why would you want it to sort differently when switching to list view?)

Noted!

To the first point:
You’ve got me there: I have to admit that I don’t remember any data and field-based apps (although I can see them in my mind’s eye), I know drag and drop mainly from my to-do and calendar apps, in which I can conveniently move the corresponding items back and forth. Or in browsers, for example, where you can sort a quick launch bar or similar with drag and drop. Of course, I don’t know whether the programming for an app like CLZ is completely different and how complex it is to programme.
But it would definitely be cool if it could be done :slight_smile:

And the second point:
That’s a matter of personal opinion - with one collection I prefer for examble a list view, with another I prefer the shelf view and so on, and I don’t want to have to change the view every time I change the collection either

I’m guessing it wouldn’t be too hard, first thought would be to have a new “field” per each item that is just called “personal sort” that has some kind of internal ID, that changes based on where you drag/drop an item.

Oh I thought you were asking to remember different sort settings based on the view option (list/cards/images) -

but now I think you mean that it should remember which view option any collection is in?

Yes, any collection should remember their own view and otherwise they should remember their own sort settings, but independing of each other…

Yeah okay. Currently this feature request is written up as to remember:

  • Chosen Folder group setting
  • Chosen Sorting setting
  • Chosen Layout setting (3 panels, 2 panels, etc)
  • Chosen view setting (list/cards/etc)

Great… Thanx :slight_smile: